I find his much more enlightening than those given by the IMTs, who don’t have the local knowledge of y ears of hiking this country. I hope Keith doesn’t mind. He does publish these on facebook, but some of my readers are not on facebook, and don’t want to be.
Tuesday Morning (8/25). Latest perimeter mapping and heat detections suggest the northern end of the Timber Fire is slowly backing into the Carmel River watershed between Ventana Cone and the Ventana Double Cone.
To the northwest, it looks like it may have crossed Ventana Creek. If so, it may move rapidly upslope in this area and could soon enter the Little Sur watershed. This side of the fire is especially concerning because it may also move toward the Big Sur Valley and appears to be already close to the bottom of slopes that could rapidly conduct it to the top of Mt. Manuel.
On the east, the fire is now firmly established along Cienega Creek and the North Fork of the Big Sur River. Strong runs up the steep Redwood and Cienega Creek drainages (toward Pine Ridge and South Ventana Cone) remain possible.
In the south, the fire remains active along the South Fork Big Sur River and may now have reached the edge of Pick Valley. Firefighters are still prepping the Coast Ridge south of Partington to defend it against this part of the fire.
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..my concern is in regards to what habitat, water shed, subterranean, pond & rivers may be pulluted by the thousands of tons worth of fire retardent now set upon once wild lands. Why hasn't this concern been addressed by experts..openly during these years of its use. Perhaps due to fears it would be raising a hell of a public outcry? Can the public demand that at the next feds-state- and regional public gathering ..there be a certified expert available to settle this concern ?Especially in that the coastel hills and its waterways directly feed into sensitive priceless ocean habitats. That & this winter is likely to bring historically off the charts rain.
🎐 thanks !
It is always a good thing when identifying a problem to also mention possible solutions.
I feel Canyon's post, and I would like to see solution proposals. Fighting wildfires comes of necessity to prevent life loss and property damage. How we fight them and what tools and materials we use are a constantly evolving discussion, and always a timely one to have.
In economics, the term "opportunity cost" is used to describe the negative impacts (Con's) that are collateral to a beneficial action (Pro's). In the context of this post, I'd like to know whether the opportunity costs of using the fire retardant as mentioned are net positive or not.
I'm sure this question has been analyzed far above my brain matter, and so we have the current situation.
Pro's and Con's chart anyone?
-Michael
Water only, will mostly evaporate before reaching the ground. The "pink slurry" reaches the ground and coats vegetation for a period of time even if drying conditions (wind,heat) are present.
Keith knows the back country well and we have seen this before. Hopefully rains will come early.
Chris
🎐a 3rd side of the coin..is the cost of operating those jet powered heli's & fixed winged aircraft...is operational costs, both cash wise & they're side effect of destroying the atmosphere..which leads to the rediculously expensive cost to restore the envirorment, as well as that need for fuel, mining precious minerals contributing to world wide wars directly associated with politics , land grabs etc.
I bet a high percentage of 'orange drops are directed to slow the fires progress, at times when front is going to reach cliffs where it's burn run will come to natural halt. OK..if a retartent dump is to spare ones home, or or other vital accessories..say like a green house, water tanks, condor rescue center, windmill or even livestock..use it ! I myself was spared injury back in circa '72..as a kid fire fighter out of the Hollistor station..when our youthful untrained team, wirking for a whooping $13.50 per hour wage..were dropped off by our team truck, in a box canyon. Each of us packing a back pack water sprayer & a hand tool.A complete wind shift rushed the fire front right onto our asses..leaving one team member with burns serious enough to get stuck in a burn ward for 12 months. I was saved when a pilot saw our life threatening moments..& pounded a hillside I was stuck on . I only left with a sunburn..a most lucky boy !