These signs are not on the LPNF, they are on Shasta, I think it was. This is from VWA by way of Anneliese Agren. I think she is working on convincing USFS to put these up here. (Feel free to correct me if I am wrong) If you need any help, Anni, let us know! I know if they just give me permission to put these up on Plaskett, I’ll make ALL the arrangements, including payment. I imagine others feel the same.

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Appointed appellate counsel for indigent defendants (retired.) I have lived in Big Sur since 1984, first on the north coast, and on the South Coast since 1989.

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  • Important words for sure... but do wish that typo wasn't on the sign. These seem to be the times of the scatterbrained trying to teach/lead the scatterbrained.

    • Typos grate, granted, but do not imply scatterbrained-ness, IMHO. Rour for your can be hard to see for the person not trained or used to editing. I like the fact that the USFS is trying to combat a horrible situation with no funds.

    • I agree, Danner, but the problem with campfires is that they are allowed 1/2 of the time, and not allowed 1/2 of the time, so that part of the sign (or the sign itself) would have to be changed seasonally. Perhaps, adding a sign underneath with the universal symbol could be added and removed as necessary.

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  • Yes - plaster those signs front and center. Need to put the appropriate campfire sign right next to it. I will donate for signs and also post fundraiser in my Nextdoor website with "encouraging" words. :)
    Now - before people bring up the language barrier... there are at least 3 apps that can translate a photo (taken by your phone) and translates it into quite a few native languages. If these people can use GPS, read blogs, use FB and even go as far as finding the lats/longs of your "local secret places" off those photos that you post but FORGET TO UNABLE LOCATION
    (HINT-HINT) they are capable of using those apps.
    Now whether they use them or not of course is the question but it might help separate the "accidental idiot" from the intentional flat-out asshole.

  • Was looking for the sign and found this site. Could be useful in the effort to "educate". Lots of good information. While I have not thoroughly vetted it seems they've done a lot of the foot work. "Work smarter, not harder"
    https://lnt.org/about

  • Kate, this site would rock if Wordpress could add an edit feature for all and a system that allerts the administrator when links past/present- go dead and /or into error.

    • I do NOT want an edit feature for “all” - only me, and whoever is my current assistant. I do agree an alert re “dead” links would be helpful, but I thought you were mine? No?

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  • Kate, An individual edit feature is what I was getting at where folks could correct its own mistakes.. By the way being the dead link whisperer is not a fun feature to address and time consuming! We observers want a smooth and no troubles functionality ability too. Ha.

  • "THE PUBLIC IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MESS"

    that line needs to be removed, it implies that the mess would be acceptable if the public wasn't complaining.

    At no time would any of the mentioned issue be acceptable anywhere on this planet or any other.

    the sign also needs reference to 'FIRE' not campfire, fire is the issue campfire softens the responsibility because everyone thinks they have a right to a campfire, you don't have a right to fire, its a privilege with responsibility that is earned and one that can be taken away.

  • I have a little bit of experience with this and very similar signage down here south of you, still in LPNF, but outside of SLO. The issues are similar on the West Cuesta Grade. I have been working with USFS in a different capacity regarding access but they have recently installed these signs and refer to them as "Interpretive" signage. It takes nearly an Act of Congress to make this signage happen and one would think that having them paid for would be a real promotion but anything that goes up has to built to a USFS standard with appropriate color and lettering and a myriad of other conditions that must be met and the hoops to jump can be numerous. I don't recall if your in the same District run out of Santa Maria or not but get the ball rolling with your District Office. If, in fact, Santa Maria is your office, your contact is Alicia Sanchez with Nate Rezeau being her boss and the District Superintendent. Perhaps since these, or at least similar signs already exist, you might be able to jump on the bandwagon and speed up the process.

    Good luck!

    • Tim: Yes, anything that goes up has to be approved both for words and installation. Same with Caltrans’ signage.

      We are out of King City office and I’m working with Lynn. I expect this to take awhile due to process, but the very good news is LPNF told me: “We agree that this is a good idea and one way to keep visitors informed and educated. We will work on installing information boards in these locations.”

      Thank you for the perspective Tim. I could have these printed and laminated at Kinkos, but they’re only be removed. As you point out, we just have to give the agency their time to get it done.

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